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Thread starter shoshi Start date Oct 26, Joined Oct 26, Messages 7 Reaction score 1. What are the diffrences? They are two very different systems. That's like asking what are the differences between krav maga and judo. Gweilo Master Black Belt. Joined Jan 11, Messages 1, Reaction score Sambo is a wrestling art, and mainly used for sport, the name is an acronym, of which in Russian basically means unarmed fighting, but you can find combat adaptations of the art, like a lot of wrestling it combines speed strength, flexability, whilst trying to pin, submit or KO outscore your opponent.
Systema is an art that the exponent will use tension only where its needed, it combines continuous movement, good structure, and being relaxed as you can, in order to adapt to your attacker, some call it the grey man principle, by moving more naturally, instead of a stylised stance, the Systema practiicioner will try to disiguse their skill, until needed, this is done by hiding strikes within their movement, all aspects of training are covered, from structure breaking, joint and lock manipulation, weapons etc, as well as using physics of human movement.
But the main part of systema training is control of yourself, controlling your phyche in stressfull senarios, which is encompassed with breathwork, there is far more to it than that, but hope that helps. Monkey Turned Wolf said:. Click to expand Gweilo said:. Krav Maga does have judo influence but it also a lot of strike and kicking. Krav Maga comes from judo and wing chun, muay thai and wrestling and also weapons training.
SoKKlab , Jul 6, Combat sombo is the style most often taught to the "ordinary" spets or para type units, KGB, etc. The term "systema" covers a few different schools, it's a bit of a generic term. Generally, though, it's taught more to specialist units - undercover, high-risk, ministry of interior units, etc.
The approach and training methods are different from sombo. In fact there is a workshop comgin up from a former KGB sombo champion, now switched to systema, on the differences between the two. More info at: www. RobP , Jul 30, Actually, the russian Spetznatz are competent in systema, not sombo. Adam , Jul 30, No, most of the Spets train in combat sombo. Specialist units train in the system.
Wrong There are a number of moves that cross over from Sombo to Systema but Systema has many other parts to it. The Spets are Systema trained not Sombo. Sombo is the generic Russian Martial Arts military style.
Sombo does not cover knife defence as standard. Sonshu , Jul 30, Well I can only tell you that when I was at a Spets base last month the guys there were fighting using combat sombo.
RobP , Jul 31, I have personally seen this type of training in Japan in some styles of Aikido, as can been seen in this video. Does this work? Finally, it is said that Systema is the style taught to the Russian Special Forces. I myself do not know anyone there, so I cannot tell. As for relatives of mine who were in the Ukrainian Army, they were taught the basics of Combat Sambo, simple and easy techniques, to be battle ready in no time. Of course firearm training was the main part, as this was the military, not civilian life.
I have seen demonstrations of the Ukrainian Special Forces, and did not see any resemblance to Systema, but rather Combat Sambo. As this video will show. Gramatica - August 29, at am Reply. You are commenting using your WordPress. You are commenting using your Google account.
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